{"id":4984,"date":"2018-04-08T02:05:29","date_gmt":"2018-04-08T00:05:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/atlantisng.com\/blog\/?p=4984"},"modified":"2020-08-27T14:21:42","modified_gmt":"2020-08-27T14:21:42","slug":"genealogia-del-posible-nombre-tartesico-turdetano-del-betis","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/atlantisng.com\/blog\/genealogia-del-posible-nombre-tartesico-turdetano-del-betis\/","title":{"rendered":"Genealog\u00eda del posible nombre tart\u00e9sico\/turdetano del Betis."},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"_li\">\n<div id=\"globalContainer\" class=\"uiContextualLayerParent\">\n<div id=\"content\" class=\"fb_content clearfix \">\n<div>\n<div class=\"_5i8q\">\n<div class=\"_4-u2 _4-u8\">\n<div class=\"_4-u3\">\n<div class=\"_4lmi\">\n<div class=\"_39k5 _5s6c\">\n<div data-contents=\"true\">\n<h2 style=\"text-align: justify;\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"cviri\" data-offset-key=\"f1vic-0-0\"><span style=\"font-family: Liberation\\ Sans, sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: large;\"><i>Valoraci\u00f3n de la hip\u00f3tesis etimol\u00f3gica de C\u00e9sar Espinoza Fuentes acerca del \u00e1rabe Kibir, \u2018grande\u2019, como traducci\u00f3n de la voz prerromana Betis.<\/i><\/span><\/span><i> <\/i><\/h2>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"cviri\" data-offset-key=\"f1vic-0-0\"><i>Georgeos D\u00edaz-Montexano \/ The Epigraphic Society<br \/>\n<\/i><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/atlantisng.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/Screenshot_2020-08-27-cesar-espinoza-baiti-pdf.png\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-14050\" src=\"https:\/\/atlantisng.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/Screenshot_2020-08-27-cesar-espinoza-baiti-pdf.png\" alt=\"Genealog\u00eda del posible nombre tart\u00e9sico\/turdetano del Betis. https:\/\/atlantisng.com\/blog\/genealogia-del-posible-nombre-tartesico-turdetano-del-betis\/\" width=\"985\" height=\"731\" srcset=\"https:\/\/atlantisng.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/Screenshot_2020-08-27-cesar-espinoza-baiti-pdf.png 985w, https:\/\/atlantisng.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/Screenshot_2020-08-27-cesar-espinoza-baiti-pdf-300x223.png 300w, https:\/\/atlantisng.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/Screenshot_2020-08-27-cesar-espinoza-baiti-pdf-768x570.png 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 985px) 100vw, 985px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">El nombre *<b>Ba<\/b><b>e<\/b><b>ti<\/b> o *<b>Beti<\/b><a class=\"sdfootnoteanc\" href=\"#sdfootnote1sym\" name=\"sdfootnote1anc\"><sup>1<\/sup><\/a> ser\u00eda la denominaci\u00f3n ind\u00edgena -probablemente t\u00fardula o turdetana- que, tal como sabemos por las mismas fuentes cl\u00e1sicas, fue dado al mayor r\u00edo de la actual Andaluc\u00eda que desde los \u00e1rabes conocemos como Guadalquivir. El r\u00edo hab\u00eda sido conocido antes con el nombre de Tartessos. El nombre de *<b>Ba<\/b><b>e<\/b><b>ti<\/b> o *<b>Beti<\/b> ya era usado al menos en los tiempos en que los romanos llegan a la regi\u00f3n quienes lo transcriben como <i>Baete<\/i> y <i>Baeti<\/i><i>s, <\/i>y seg\u00fan ha propuesto recientemente el antrop\u00f3logo y ling\u00fcista, C\u00e9sar Espinoza Fuentes (2018),<a class=\"sdfootnoteanc\" href=\"#sdfootnote2sym\" name=\"sdfootnote2anc\"><sup>2<\/sup><\/a> su significado ser\u00eda el mismo que los \u00e1rabes otorgaron con la voz <span style=\"font-family: FreeSans;\"><span lang=\"hi-IN\"><span lang=\"ar-SA\">\u0643\u0628\u064a\u0631<\/span><\/span><\/span>, <i><b>Kbr<\/b><\/i> (<i>kebir <\/i>o <i>kibir<\/i>), o sea, &#8216;grande&#8217;, \u2018muy grande\u2019, \u2018enorme\u2019.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sdfootnote\">Seg\u00fan Espinoza Fuentes, ser\u00eda m\u00e1s que l\u00f3gico deducir que los \u00e1rabes tradujeron el conocido nombre antiguo del mismo r\u00edo, <i>Betis<\/i>, de acuerdo al significado principal que este tendr\u00eda desde antiguo: \u2018grande\u2019. El mismo autor sospecha que el t\u00e9rmino dialectal del portugu\u00e9s, <i>baita<\/i> (\u2018grande\u2019, \u2018enorme\u2019, \u2018incre\u00edble\u2019), pudiera estar relacionado con la forma tart\u00e9sica o t\u00faurdulo-turdetana *<b>baiti<\/b> que dar\u00eda origen etimol\u00f3gico al hidr\u00f3nimo del mayor r\u00edo de esta regi\u00f3n del mismo re\u00edno o emporio tart\u00e9sico o t\u00fardulo-turdetano&#8230;<a class=\"sdfootnotesym\" href=\"#sdfootnote1anc\" name=\"sdfootnote1sym\"><\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"cviri\" data-offset-key=\"f1vic-0-0\">\n<h3 style=\"text-align: center;\" align=\"justify\">[ <a title=\"Genealog\u00eda del posible nombre tart\u00e9sico\/turdetano del Betis Valoraci\u00f3n de la hip\u00f3tesis etimol\u00f3gica de C\u00e9sar Espinoza Fuentes acerca del \u00e1rabe Kibir, \u2018grande\u2019, como traducci\u00f3n de la voz prerromana Betis. Georgeos D\u00edaz-Montexano \/ The Epigraphic Society\" href=\"http:\/\/atlantisng.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/cesar-espinoza-baiti.pdf\">Continuar leyendo el art\u00edculo en PDF<\/a> ]<\/h3>\n<div id=\"sdfootnote1\">\n<p class=\"sdfootnote\"><a class=\"sdfootnotesym\" href=\"#sdfootnote1anc\" name=\"sdfootnote1sym\">1<\/a> Los griegos transcrib\u00edan el nombre como \u0392\u03b1\u1fd6\u03c4\u03b9\u03c2, (pro. baitis o betis) y los romanos como Baetis, Baete, Baeti (pro. bae\u032ftis, bae\u032fte, bae\u032fti o como betis, bete, beti en lat\u00edn postcl\u00e1sico, tard\u00edo y medieval): -os, -is, -us, -s al final de nombres griegos y latinos son t\u00edpicas desinencias o marcas de nominativo de lenguas indoeuropeas que por regla general se a\u00f1ad\u00edan a los nombres, es decir, que en la mayor\u00eda de los casos no exist\u00edan en tales nombres, especialmente cuando estos eran extranjeros. De modo que la forma original de lo transcrito por griegos y romanos ser\u00eda *beti o *baiti.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"sdfootnote2\">\n<p class=\"sdfootnote\"><a class=\"sdfootnotesym\" href=\"#sdfootnote2anc\" name=\"sdfootnote2sym\">2<\/a> Comentario del el antrop\u00f3logo y ling\u00fcista C\u00e9sar Espinoza Fuentes en el grupo de facebook: Celtiberia, el s\u00e1bado 7 de Abril de 2018 a las 6:24 horas (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/groups\/450186695102347\/permalink\/1605065212947817\/?comment_id=1605115666276105&amp;reply_comment_id=1605866012867737&amp;comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R%22%7D\">https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/groups\/450186695102347\/permalink\/1605065212947817\/?comment_id=1605115666276105&amp;reply_comment_id=1605866012867737&amp;comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R%22%7D<\/a>)<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"globalContainer\" class=\"uiContextualLayerParent\">\n<div id=\"content\" class=\"fb_content clearfix \" role=\"main\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"_5i8q\">\n<div class=\"_4-u2 _4-u8\">\n<div class=\"_4-u3\">\n<div class=\"_4lmi\">\n<div class=\"_39k5 _5s6c\">\n<hr \/>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Valoraci\u00f3n de la hip\u00f3tesis etimol\u00f3gica de C\u00e9sar Espinoza Fuentes acerca del \u00e1rabe Kibir, \u2018grande\u2019, como traducci\u00f3n de la voz prerromana Betis. 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